Keyword quantity

[Dave Koehler]

Depending on what I read it seems like you can either have too many keywords or not enough.

Quality is not the question here, just quantity. Can you have too many or too few? Anyone got a feeling on what amount of keywords per page is sufficient?

[Exile]

I don't think that anyone has that answer Dave. I would use the general rule of thumb that too few is better than too many. And as long as your content supports the keywords you should be fine.

I tend to use only about 50 and rely on those for quality visitors on other sites of mine. I think I have about that many on foodandrestaurants as well.

[WebMonkey08]

I followed this Pro Marketer (at that SEO Forum), guy was a real jerk. I asked him about Keyword Stuffing because it seemed like he had too many keywords in the content and Metas and Alts. He said you won't get penalized if your Meta Keywords / Description are in the Content of your page.His credo was Content, the more the better. I saw him get good position on Content alone. Here's a site he started http://www.finedesigncloset.com/ See all the Content on that page..that's the ticket.

[Dave Koehler]

Wow, that boy sure got a lot of stuff in a small closet space. Wondering if any of the other linked pages will be finished.

I think there has to be a balanced decision between being all worried about the content thing for robots and having a page your potential customer can read and navigate without a magnifying glass.
If you aren't interested in paying customers but rather links then I suppose content does indeed rule.

[WebMonkey08]

Originally Posted by Dave Koehler

Wow, that boy sure got a lot of stuff in a small closet space. Wondering if any of the other linked pages will be finished.

I think there has to be a balanced decision between being all worried about the content thing for robots and having a page your potential customer can read and navigate without a magnifying glass.
If you aren't interested in paying customers but rather links then I suppose content does indeed rule.

That Closet Site, that guy started that site and was mad because the Client was hemming and hawwing about proceeding. This guy has does work for Fortune 500 Companies, and claimed he could knock people out of position real easy. He was a real jerk, he rippred everyones site at that Forum for days on end. I read some of the stuff he wrote, though, and it seemed to make sense.

[WebMonkey08]

Originally Posted by WebMonkey08

That Closet Site, that guy started that site and was mad because the Client was hemming and hawwing about proceeding. This guy has does work for Fortune 500 Companies, and claimed he could knock people out of position real easy. He was a real jerk, he rippred everyones site at that Forum for days on end. I read some of the stuff he wrote, though, and it seemed to make sense.

He used to call the 'In House' web guy at the comapnies he did work for 'Web Monkey' because he thought they were all morons. (thats where my handle comes from)

[Dave Koehler]

Maybe this line of thinking is why I think a lot of corporate sites I go to are a cluttered pain in the butt to navigate.

When some webmasters make sites for corporations do they deliberately make them complicated and sometimes vague at the same time to justify their charges?

[Exile]

Originally Posted by Dave Koehler

Maybe this line of thinking is why I think a lot of corporate sites I go to are a cluttered pain in the butt to navigate.

When some webmasters make sites for corporations do they deliberately make them complicated and sometimes vague at the same time to justify their charges?

I am with you on that one. If I find such a cluttered site I immediately lose interest. Maybe that is just a "guy" thing because my wife laughs at me for going to a convenience store for milk instead of navigating the grocery store isles

Give me the site and make it easy to find what I am looking for is all I ask.

[WebMonkey08]

Originally Posted by Dave Koehler

Maybe this line of thinking is why I think a lot of corporate sites I go to are a cluttered pain in the butt to navigate.

When some webmasters make sites for corporations do they deliberately make them complicated and sometimes vague at the same time to justify their charges?

I know what you are saying but this guy claims the Content has to be there to get position, and he had every search phrase imaginable covered, number1 for all. He used Neilsen Rates, all sorts of stuff for research. And claimed 'Position' was the easy part. Next step is 'Conversion', which actually get people go to the site and buy, or do what the goal of the site was.

I know he did this site too, which is pretty extensive www.forex.com

[WebMonkey08]

Originally Posted by WebMonkey08

I know what you are saying but this guy claims the Content has to be there to get position, and he had every search phrase imaginable covered, number1 for all. He used Neilsen Rates, all sorts of stuff for research. And claimed 'Position' was the easy part. Next step is 'Conversion', which actually get people go to the site and buy, or do what the goal of the site was.

I know he did this site too, which is pretty extensive www.forex.com

That's why I find this Forum the Athesis (complete opposite) of this SEO Forum http://www.v7n.com/forums/seo-forum/ Go there, and you will see that people are working on strategies to Market thier site. The last thing on thier minds are 'Slide Shows', 'Lyte Box'..the 'bells and whistles' don't cut it. But I like this Forum, ppl are nice..it's interesting too