CowboyCrew, JefIto - Re:previous thread

[Isiloan]

CowboyCrew,
I just saw your response to the thread for "How many pages per document? posted by Wil219 on 1/11/08" and wanted to know how you would implement separating different sections in smaller folders such as one for links, monthly news, reading room, ect, ect.... as you mentioned...
I'm having a problem implementing that concept, I've been advised to link within the page but would rather separate things in folders... I will be updating regularly and personally need the info to be organized in folders in different documents. I have a Main document called “Main2” which contains a page called destinations where I want to have some links for all 50 states. I would like to have a folder for each state which will contain a document where I can then link within that document by page name or link to a file as Jeff had suggested in my previous thread. Please let me know the steps to create the links from Main2 to another document in a folder name Florida for example. Also in that folder will I need to create a document much in the same way as I created the Main2 document except I’ll call it Florida with the info and all pages for that states.
Anyone who can help please advise.

Thanks

[jefito]

Maybe I'm having trouble understanding exactly what you want to do. If I am , please explain it to me in dummy terms. Me no understand LOL! I know you want a smaller site, but If I understand you correctly, you want to link to files outside of it.

However, if it were me, I would just build a larger site and link to specific target spots on a page. It's easy and painless, and huge sites don't take that long to load.

If I'm reading you correctly, putting files in different folders is just asking for trouble. Everything should be in 1 folder only.

Another way, if you're good with HTML, then write your own pages in notepad, and save each page with a .html at the end. For example: northdakota.html. But the .htm extension I was referring to is automatically assigned in Web Easy.

Slow-loading sites are usually due to the types of files within the site. Optimize your

graphics. If you don't know how, go to the web and check it out. I use photoshop. If you don't

know what optimizing is, it's pulling unnessecary info out of a file, such as rarely used

colors etc. Optimizing removes the bits and pieces, then compresses the file.

Jpegs are great for photos and some graphics.
bitmaps and gifs are great for logos, and other graphics.

Finally, I will try to figure out another way because I love the challenges of learning new things!

[CowboyCrew]

I would personally,

Create a website for each state.

Michigan
Arizona
Oklahoma

Ect.

Then you can use your template from your website to create a new page making changes would be easy.

To explain further

www.yourwebsite.com
This is your main website.
After you create a new website called Michigan and publish this one it would now read as
www.yourwebsite.com/michigan

How you would implement separating different sections in smaller folders such as one for links, monthly news, reading room, ECT,

My website for example if I were to separate it would look more like this.
www.thethomasranch.com/links.htm
www.thethomasranch.com/monthly_news.htm
www.thethomasranch.com/reading_room.htm

Now none of these exist in real life because I just kept trekking on with Thomas_Ranch.htm, which is now at 181 pages.

If someone somewhere were to just begin there website I would suggest breaking it into smaller folders, Web Sites, from the beginning. I have been using WebEasy since 2003 with WE4. Now with that being said I have 1 page that is a page rank of 5, What is a Cowboy? Facts and Myths.
http://www.thethomasranch.com/thomas_ranch_037.htm

If I were to recreate this section, the Reading Room, then I would loose this and have to start all over. Now I could rebuild the rest of the site because there is a ton of 3-4’s but I would not want to loose the 5.

I just rebuilt www.TheThomasRanch.com completely from scratch. I kept several pages in their exact location because of the PR ranking that it had already established.

But for a new site it has no Page Ranking and I would build them in different folders. When we say folders we actually mean websites. I would have to build a website for each section. Now if I were to do this and I may with the exception of the Reading Room I can then link page to page within each website that I built.

One issue that I did find when overlapping websites is that the new website will cover your main website. For example if I make a new website called Links and cover The Ranches website’s main page. Then when I open my URL it will be the main website, until I cover it back up with my main website. Now to alleviate a big head ache what would I do? I would create only a front page website, a one pager. This way it would be easy to make changes to a single page and upload it, covering up your links website, which is still on the net. Now once we have uploaded the front page again and we click on links it would take you to www.thethomasranch.com/links.htm (this link doesn’t exist).

There are a ton of people on here each will have there advice to give on this subject this is only my opinion. This is just from all the different ways I have found to make things work. Others know how to change their web page names. There are several threads on that, but for a quick and easy way to do it I feel this is it. You will have 51 websites at your disposal and to make a quick change to one state would be a lot easier than the way I am doing it right now.

If someone requests a link exchange with The Thomas Ranch I have to build 181 pages to add one link. If I were to have broke down my links section into another website I would only have to publish13 pages, then cover it back up with the main page.

I hope this helps,
Russell

[Isiloan]

Russel,

that is exactly what I'm looking for ... I'm going to give it a try... I'll link from website to website then within each website I'll link by page name or sections

Jeff,
I'll check back if you have another way to implement this I'm definetely open to all suggestions and to learning something new...

To you both,
Thanks a million for all your help

[jefito]

Russell's idea sounds like a good one, I think I'd give that a try first.

[Isiloan]

Russell,
I've created the first 4 state websites that I will link to from my main website. I tried testing the "link to website" feature for my 4 state websites without much success... I know that the feature works because when I redirected the link to vcom.com/product ...it worked..
My question is (and I know!.. you did mention publishing first)... is there a way (short cut) to test my state website links without publishing them first. I previewed each one separately and they individually work. In the url box for Alabama for example I have http://www.Main3/ALABAMA.html
Where Main3 is my main website that contains the link to Alabama that the users will click on. Do I have to TRUST this will work until publish time???

Also more important when I'm ready to publish (keep in mind I've NEVER done this before ) ... will there be a way to make the Main3 website the "primary website. Do they get published in a certain order or does that not matter?

Thanks

P.S... I'm thinking of using GoDaddy to publish... for better or worst... we'll see when I get to that stage.

[jefito]

you can preview your other sites by linking to them as files.

Just make a link, right click to get the links dialog box, choose "file", then search your documents until you find your web easy folder. Open the "html' folder, then select the page you want to link to. It's very easy and works.

Whatever site has your index page will be the primary site. If you want Site 1 to be the main, then make sure the first page of that site is your index page.

I do it from windows explorer. What I do is open up explorer, find my web easy folder, the html folder, then open up my site. I take the first page, copy it, then paste it back in as a copy. There'll be a file like: "copy of site1".

Then, delete the original page 1, which would be "site 1."

Finally, just right click on the copy, choose "rename" and name it "index".

[Isiloan]

Thanks Jeff... that worked like a charm ... the only thing is ...I lost the format of my text ... It's no longer centered on the screen like I had it... instead it spreads /wraps around all across the screen. strangely enough when I preview the Alabama file it's ok... but once I renamed the index file and ran the test again the link works but the text is displayed as I just described above.

any ideas???

[jefito]

That is strange, I've never had that happen before. It sounds a lot like it could be a browser preview problem. It might display just fine once uploaded, but that's not guaranteed. Are you using Firefox or IE? Those are the top 2 browsers. I know that Firefox is a real scoundrel with WE sites, but it has MUCH better security which is why I use it exclusively.

Are you previewing the whole site, or just a current page? That can also have a lot to do with it.

Also, are you using plain text, or rich text? I've had more success using only rich text.

[Isiloan]

I'm using IE ver 7 in Win VISTA... what makes this even more unusual is that it is not consistant... I decided to keep adding content to my websites and every time I preview sometimes it works and sometimes it shows uncentered. I even went in the advanced feature when I build the site and selected Center all instead of standard for the web layout ....(saw that in a recent post here)...unfortunately things are still the same...
Oh well... for now I'm gonna keep going until I publish to see if there's a pattern and if hopefully everything will be centered once I publish...
In the mean time all suggestions are appreciated ...

Thanks

[jefito]

Have you incorporated any new html like form codes or anything? If so, select the placehoders and from the arrange menu, choose "bring to front". I made changes to one of my pages (I use firefox), and previewed, and everything was off the page to one side. The type was all double-spaced, and pics were off the page. So, I did the "bring to front" thing on my custom coding, and it was perfect again.

Other than that, the only thing I can think of is to go back and rename the index page back to the default web page name and see what happens.

[jefito]

You said that you went into the advanced menu and chose "center"? Try rebuilding the site again normally. Just go to the "build" menu, and choose whatever type of site you chose before (dhtml, css, etc.), and overwrite it. It should only take a minute or two since you're only overwriting.

If you had it set to "standard page" then choose that again. This time don't rename anything, just leave it as is. You can still link to the pages as files like before as long as they're in the same folder. The documents have to be all together in order to work.

See how that works.

[CowboyCrew]

Isiloan,

First let me start off by saying sorry, I wasn’t there during this. I am now over in Afghanistan and finally got Internet in my room. There is one dish and 1,500 soldiers all plugged into it. The speed here is 10 Mbps. Super slow. I don’t even know if I will be able to update my websites, let alone do much of anything but check my mail.

On to your issue, there is a short cut that you’re asking for. It is built in as a default. When you “Hoover” your mouse over the link look down at the bottom left of the screen and it will show you the link that you are about to go to.

Create a flow chart, I would recommend a dry erase board, because of how big, and complicated your site will be. When you mouse over you will see the URL that it wants to take you too. Do this on each and every page and you will see if one of your links are directed somewhere you do not want it to go.

I hope this helps,
Russell